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Windows Phone 7 App Hub登録の流れ

marketplaceを通してアプリの配布するにはApp Hubに開発者として登録しなければなりません。

また、Windows Phone 7デバイスにxapファイルを配置して実機確認するにはApp Hubに開発者として登録された後にデバイス登録が必要です。

日本でWindows Phone 7は発売されていませんが、App Hubへの開発者登録は日本語化されたページがあります。

http://create.msdn.com/ja-JP/

App Hubの登録には本人確認が必要ですが、既存のXBOX Creators Club登録者と新発売されたWindows Phone 7開発者の両方の本人確認があるため大変混み合っています。

それだけならばいいのですが、日本からの登録は混んでいる以上の障壁が存在します。日本マイクロソフトの方も改善に動いていると力強く伝えて頂けたのでこの状況は改善されると思いますが、大きな流れは変わりませんし改善の参考になる情報もあるかも知れませんので、実際に私が体験した流れと対策をポイントごとに記述したいと思います。

なお、以下の話は新規にApp Hubへプロフィール登録したときの話です。XBOX Creators Club登録者の方は「App Hubでプロフィールを登録する」の代わりにApp Hubに何かアプリを登録する事で、本人確認のステップとなり最短日数で本人確認の手続きが終わってApp Hubに登録が完了します。

 

2010/11/13:App Hubにアカウントを登録する

2010/11/13:App Hubの確認の電子メールを受信する

2010/11/13:メールアドレス確認後にメールを受信する

2010/11/13:GeoTrustに本人確認の手続き開始依頼をする

※ここでGetTrustとChatで会話するとChat終わった直後に次のステップのための下記のメールを取得できます。

2010/11/27:GeoTrustから本人確認用証明書の送信依頼を受信する

※ここでGetTrustとChatで会話するとChat終わった直後に次のステップにいけます。

2010/12/06:本人確認用証明書の内容について不備があったのを指摘されて訂正して送信する

2010/12/07:GeoTrustとChatをする

2010/12/08:GeoTrustアジアサポートからのメールを受信する

2010/12/10:GeoTrustでの本人確認完了

2010/12/11:Windows Marketplace account notificationを受信する

 

実に一か月近くかかっていますがChatを積極的に使えば11/13にチャットで11/14に送付依頼、11/15にChatでasiaサポートにおくってもらえば19日くらいでWindows Marketplace account notificationの受信まで行けるのでような気もします。

App Hubにアカウントを登録する

App Hubへのアカウント登録にはWindows Live IDが必要です。ここで重要なのは「Zune Softwareで日本以外のリージョンに割り当てた事がない」Windows Live IDが必要だということです。

Zune Softwareでmarketplaceを使うためにはOSの設定を米国にしてLive IDを登録する事になりますがこのLive IDはApp Hubへのアカウント登録には使えないという事です。

これはZuneは国リージョンにより厳格に動作が規定されており、そのため国リージョンを切り替えながら使うという事を意図的に除外しているからで、年会費の引き落としなどに日本のリージョンである必要があるためです。

そのため、App Hub登録用とZune登録用に2つLive IDを用意した方が良いでしょう。すでにLive IDを取得して普段使いのLive IDがあるのならば、Zuneで登録するLive ID(Windows Phone 7自体で使うLive IDも)はXBOX 360とも連携しますから普段使いのLive IDが良いでしょう。

 

アカウントの種類には「会社」「個人」「学生」があります。学生とした場合、無償提供ツールがあるようですがDreamSparkによる学籍の確認が必要になります。

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次にアカウントの詳細を入力します。

画面の例では姓名を日本語で入力していますが、ここで入力した姓名とメールアドレスが本人確認代行をしているGeoTrust(日本ジオトラストはこの本人確認の業務には携わっていないので日本語は基本的に通じない)に通知されるため英語の方がスムーズだと思います。

また、GeoTrustでの本人確認には、メールで送られてくる指定用紙にパスポートか運転免許証を張り付けてFAXまたはスキャン後にメール添付して送信する必要があります。日本語で入力したときにはパスポートのサイン欄や免許証の漢字と異ならないようにしましょう。

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なお、この画面のスナップショットでは姓名が英語表記になっていますが、以降の画面スナップショットをとったときは姓名は「初音玲」と日本語表記していますので予めご了承ください。

ステップ3の支払いとはApp Hubへの年間登録料の支払用のクレジットカード情報を入力します。なお、GeoTrustの本人確認費用もこの年間登録料に含まれています。

なお、アカウント登録後にApp Hubのプロフィールをみると「発行者名(英語表記)」という欄がありますが、これは今はもう使われなくなっている項目なのでどこにも入力する場所がありませんが気にする必要はありません。

App Hubの確認の電子メールを受信する

アカウント登録が完了するとすぐに入力したメールアドレス宛にメールアドレスの確認用メールが送信されてきます。メールを受信したら本文中のURLをクリックしてメールアドレスの確定を行ってください。

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メールアドレス確認後にメールを受信する

電子メールアドレスの確認が終わると2通のメールが送信されてきます。

1つは「サービスご購入の確認 App Hub 12か月間のメンバーシップ」メールです。これはマイクロソフトからのメールになります。

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GeoTrustに本人確認の手続き開始依頼をする

もう1通のメールがGeoTrustからの受領メールです。これはあくまでも本人確認をしていいかのメールですので本人確認ができたということではありません。

メールをみると「玲 初音」と英語表記順で本文に記載があります。アカウント登録で英語表記で姓名欄を埋めていた方がしっくりくるメールになります。きっと自動転記しているだけでGeoTrustの人で読める人は皆無だと思います。

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このメールには「Please follow the URL below to approve or not approve this request」とタイトルのついたURLが記載されています。

このURLをクリックして必ず[approve]をクリックしてして本人確認の手続きを依頼してください。

GeoTrustから本人確認用証明書の送信依頼を受信する

何日か待つと(私の場合は2週間)GeoTrustから「Documentation Needed for your Windows Marketplace for Mobile Order ID xxxxxxx」というタイトルでメールが届きます。必ず返信文を印刷して「Place Photocopy ID here」の位置にパスポートか免許証のコピーを張り付けてください。

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Date:
Order number: xxxxxxx

Dear Sirs,

I understand that GeoTrust, Inc. received a request to verify certain information for my application to Microsoft for 玲 初音 (Individual).

I am the contact listed in the request. This letter serves to confirm my identity as submitted for inclusion in my Publisher ID.

******* Place Photocopy ID here *******

 

 

I confirm and warrant that this is an unaltered, exact copy of my Driver's License or Passport.

Print Name: 玲 初音

ID # _____証明書のID_______

Exp. Date: ___証明書の有効期限__

State of Issuance: ____Japan_________

Signed: ____自筆でサイン________________

Date: ___今日の日付_____

-------------------------------

本人確認用証明書の内容について不備があったのを指摘されて訂正して送信する

サインしたレターとパスポートをスキャンしたものを一緒に添付しただけだと次のようなメールがきます。どうやらGeoTrustとしてはサインしたレターの中にパスポートか免許証がはりつけてあるものをスキャンまたはFAXしなければならないようです。

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We have received the letter, however can you please send the letter and the ID in the attachment?  We have received the ID from you previously, however we need the ID and the letter in the attachment.

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GeoTrustとChatをする

GeoTrustのメールにChatのURLが書かれていたのでものは試したChatに突撃したときのログを晒したいと思います。

なお、向こうの人の名前は一応仮名にしてあります。

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Hello, my name is Akira Hatsune.
How is the status of my order going?
I send to mail the letter and the ID in the attahment.

>Please wait while we find a representative to assist you.
>All agents are currently busy. Please stand by.
>An agent will be with you in a moment. Thank you for your patience.

You have been connected to GeoTrustB.

GeoTrustB:  Hello Akira.

GeoTrustB:  How can I assist you today?

Akira Hatsune:  I want you to teach be good when what is done.

GeoTrustB:  We have requested that you resend your identification letter with your attached ID.

GeoTrustB:  We need both your ID and letter to be sent in the same e-mail.

GeoTrustB:  Please send the e-mail to apacsupport@geotrust.com as they work on our Japan orders.

Akira Hatsune:  yes, i send both ID and letter in the e-mail

GeoTrustB:  What e-mail was it sent from?

Akira Hatsune:  From hatsune.a@xxxxxx.com

GeoTrustB:  Thank you. I do see it now.

GeoTrustB:  I will forward your document to our Asia Branch so that they may process the verification of your order.

Akira Hatsune:  It has understood. Quick processing is expected.

GeoTrustB:  Yes, and if you require any further status updates, you can e-mail apacsupport@Geotrust.com for any updates.

Akira Hatsune:  Do I only have to be waiting for mail from Asia Branch ?

GeoTrustB:  Correct.

GeoTrustB:  Once they complete verification they will send your results to Microsoft for the next step in activating your account.

Akira Hatsune:  I see. It looks forward.

Akira Hatsune:  Thank you for today. It survived.

GeoTrustB:  You're welcome.

Akira Hatsune:  thx. good bye GeoTrustB.

GeoTrustB:  Goodbye Akira!

> Your session has ended. You may now close this window
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GeoTrustアジアサポートからのメールを受信

Chatで告げられていた通りエンジェルメグ(とはこの時点では思っていませんでしたw)ことasiaサポートのMegからメールが来ました。

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初音 玲さん こんにちは

あなたのIDを確認するために、サインしたフォームとあなたの写真つきIDを送ってくださいな

めぐ

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※原文は英語。翻訳は意訳あり。写真つきIDはパスポートか免許証のこと

GeoTrustでの本人確認完了

日本ではなくてオーストラリアがサポートで落胆したのですが、オーストラリアで担当してくれたメグちゃん(勝手に推定すれば20代後半でメガネかけてて黒髪ストレートとぱっつん前髪。黒のタイトスカートと白ブラウス(襟が大きい奴)を愛用)がいろいろ例外的な状況をスタスタと解決してくれてついに念願の次の文面のメールもらいました。

Hi Akira,

Thank you for the attachment. I have completed the authentication process and informed Microsoft that we have updated the contact's name.

Once received a confirmation from Microsoft, we will be approving your request shortly.

Thank you,

Meg

GeoTrust Orderprocessing Support
asiasupport@geotrust.com

Windows Marketplace account notificationを受信する

GeoTrustからMicrosoftに本人確認完了の連絡がいくとマイクロソフトからaccount notificationメールがとどきます。このメールがくればApp Hubの登録は完了となります。

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投稿日時 : 2010年12月14日 4:38

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Aka Robin the Cartwheel King or Mr GruntWheel ?! I came away from the Ogwen feeling exactly the same - I was buzzing for days.

# hb38x0 2016/06/11 15:41 MoToRhEaD01

г?? OnLineWeather also has climate information, which seems to differ slightly so maybe the data comes from a different source - they don't say. Anyhow they give a similar pattern. They also have data for Oban - www.onlineweather.com/v4/.../Oban.html - which once again puts September up amongst the wetter months. http://www.nest-expert.ru/node/3471
...and they certainly don't forgive you if you roll leaning back in my experience; you're up but you spend the next few seconds trying to get back forwards! http://www.nest-expert.ru/node/3247
г?­ Mick :D http://www.nest-expert.ru/node/3295
PS http://www.nest-expert.ru/node/4001
It made walking around in the rain all week worthwhile... :-) Mick http://www.nest-expert.ru/node/3401
Robert Ben you'll spoil my whole vibe and scare off the water gods! :rolleyes ж?‡ http://www.nest-expert.ru/node/4218
Whats it running like? What is the play potential on the loop like at the moment?Is the splat rock going? Rhys Keep mine in an Aquapac. It's a very small phone so I keep my car keys in there too (another electronic thing to keep dry). I also carry it in my BA as should everything go bad and say, unthinkably, I lost my boat I might quite like to still have the phone and the car keys. I mean, imagine having to walk all the way from the Chipper to the car park; call a taxi instead. http://www.nest-expert.ru/node/4231


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Seal Rob

# 9pp3yp 2016/06/12 17:21 ionutdaniel

г?? г?? I thought you hated the things............. :eek Mick http://ywp.nanowrimo.org/node/2145153
Cheers, http://ywp.nanowrimo.org/node/2145491
е?? г?­ 3) Last time I was there the river was 'just' big enough to play but my boat kept scraping on the concrete bed...my rails ended up like a frayed bit of cloth! Had hours with a hot knife getting it back! You've been warned Rob http://ywp.nanowrimo.org/node/2144751
Cheers, http://ywp.nanowrimo.org/node/2144982
I'm converted! im shure thers better though http://ywp.nanowrimo.org/node/2144780
I don't think I could pass 3 star in my Jive. I'm at the upper end of the weight range for the boat, and the cockpit is very low at the back - so I can't (with any consistency) get back into the boat from a capsize and swim. The stern dips and the boats fills up. If, perish the thought, I ever had to take 3 star again, I'd have to borrow a bigger boat. г?? http://ywp.nanowrimo.org/node/2145297
Will. http://ywp.nanowrimo.org/node/2143577


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Mouse casualties - 13 So, to start off the thread - I'm gonna put up the Ogwen as a contender for the top UK river! I'd be very interested to hear from other folk as to their top river (or top 3?) and why?

# u2hvhv 2016/06/13 2:45 bubu_niko

г?­ е?? "I am writing to you in desperation and frustration at the structure of the Assessor status process. I attended the assessor training day back in June 2001 and since then I have been constantly trying to contact Contracted Course Providers with the aim of gathering the relevant signatures. I have only managed to assist on one level 2 training course, during which the CCP informed me that I have the right attitude, experience & skills necessary to assess at this level - a sentiment echoed by 2 Regional Coaching Officers (even though I have to jump through the hoops of the first two levels!). I have become aware of the following barriers to learning and coach development and would appreciate some advice or guidance on how to overcome them. http://fixpolitix.com/node/12221
that's the place. Not sure exactly what the access agreement is but the security guys seem happy for you to be there. http://fixpolitix.com/node/12449
г?? Date http://fixpolitix.com/node/11620
I got mine last summer after I parted company with my Method Air in the Alps. http://fixpolitix.com/node/11794
Keep them fronts a comin`! http://fixpolitix.com/node/11534
1.30 am!! don't you ever sleep? Dulas е ? http://fixpolitix.com/node/11747
Mark H http://fixpolitix.com/node/12373


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Where did you start to learn kayaking?

# x43b0f 2016/06/16 2:08 elvisdenis

г?? е®? Though I carry my phone "on principle" ( the one time you need it, it's in the car ... plus the value post-paddle for fixing shuttles etc), I've only ever used it on the Thames (to try to ring the "Charing X Bridge Control). Whilst I'd carry it in a BA pocket at sea, otherwise, it's in the back of the boat in a dry bag. I can't see much point in keeping it out on the river; most WW rivers anyway seem to have effectively zero reception at water level! http://ywp.nanowrimo.org/node/2222421
You could have a point with my boat?, I did think about it after I posted my previous message, I'm at the top of the weight limit. I'm understanding all you've said about the forward stroke, and actually doing it, yet the bow still buries - hence the slight lean backwards. Another thought I had was whether this problem is peculiar to the inazone? I've had this problem echoed by 2 other inazone paddlers? http://ywp.nanowrimo.org/node/2226355
г?¦ ж?‡ Ok.. so where is all this wonderfull rain... I've been told that its supposed to rain all week here in devon... and apart from yesterday morning it hasn't rained at all ... Simon Wiles http://ywp.nanowrimo.org/node/2226628
Our second run was a nonstop eddyless attempt to break the 30 minute barrier. I the event, four of us clocked 35 minutes (well I did, the others were pitifully lagging two minutes behind at the end), which included an extended eddy wait whilst Andy got nailed in the ledge stoppers. I have put your letter forward to be put into CoDe and hope this starts a debate that will result in answering your questions. I am beginning to understand the complications of the assessor scheme by listening to others on the telephone and I am shocked about the way some of the ccp's are behaving. http://ywp.nanowrimo.org/node/2223976
Doubt you'll see this now Jez, but mebbe I'll run into you in the morning. http://ywp.nanowrimo.org/node/2224685
Congrats on the letter, I have verbalised it at meetings in the past but a bit like the 5* I often feel with the BCU it might be easier to change from within, but geting in is the problem. After your example I'll try and be a bit more proactive. г?« http://ywp.nanowrimo.org/node/2226750
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# j3ajh3 2016/06/24 13:46 cosmon

г?° г?? It will run grade 4 but I'm still wanting it to pull off those playmoves!....obviously not anything to do with my lack of skill ;) It can do most stuff but it's a bit harder to pull off the playmoves. www.guidebook.free-online...access.jpg http://cistools.net/node/2879
Yeah...damn right it's short ;) http://cistools.net/node/2879
г?? г?? Happy Rabbits????? Now only one kayak for sale! http://cistools.net/node/2795
hf http://cistools.net/node/3337
Michael http://cistools.net/node/2710
cheers for that е ? http://cistools.net/node/3177
I know from personal experience when I aimed a little too close to the right hand flow how difficult it is to avoid especially in a larger boat (I was in a 16' open canoe at the time). I have vivid memories of jumping out onto the rocks above the drop and fighting to get the canoe out before it got bent in the constriction at the top. http://cistools.net/node/3396


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Assessor status?

# axjgef 2016/07/05 5:11 cleo88

г?? You speak common sense...yet again! :D I guess you didn't have any luck on Saturday. Rob said he definitely saw some blades on the river right bank. He thought they were schlegels though! http://www.nettrader.ua/content/72016
Edited by: DartFolks at: 2/7/02 10:47:51 pm http://www.nettrader.ua/content/70518
г?¦ By the way...he's looking for keen, fairly able paddlers to paddle with up there. He's sick of these solo missions! In particular, anybody free on Friday afternoons would be a Godsend. If that's you, post a name/ contact here and I'll pass it on to him (someone else is using his laptop at present). http://www.nettrader.ua/content/71490
> Investigate the transferability of skills between river-running and slalom/ freestyle (lots of manuals for both) http://www.nettrader.ua/content/71814
And to the person who asked this question a while ago, are you having as much difficulty as me? http://www.nettrader.ua/content/71686
They aren't - they're completely arbitary. I think this was decided based on having some ability to work with groups coupled with necessary river skills. Craig's point basically covers the idea that the leader must be "competent" - however it is defined. г?? е®? http://www.nettrader.ua/content/72071
?30 petrol, ?130 for recovery and having the tank drained, ?40 to fill up with DIESEL, and a Sunday spent looking at 2 dry rivers. http://www.nettrader.ua/content/70946


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# gq3hv1 2016/07/05 6:07 eugendavid

г?№ г?? Whilst Mark , Chris & the rest of the A Team headed back up to Dartmeet, the remnants of the D team- (Sheryl & Myself) headed over to the upper Tavy- http://www.nettrader.ua/content/69590
If you can't be @rsed with all that and just want a quick illustrated primer on the common knots try www.climbing.ie/knots.html Happy Rabbits????? http://www.nettrader.ua/content/71253
ж?° whats this about a "flow phone" for the Conway? Whats the number? http://www.nettrader.ua/content/72074
Personally when I roll, I try and look downwards; it keeps your head under for longer and makes rolling easier. Not recommended though if the river's shallow! ;-) I might have said just that yesterday, but today made up for it... http://www.nettrader.ua/content/69907
Cheers, http://www.nettrader.ua/content/72579
Will. 複 � http://www.nettrader.ua/content/70433
Have fun! Barriers : http://www.nettrader.ua/content/72358


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Can I collect my free pint now?

# mgth18 2016/07/05 6:57 manuel2010

г?? I also think there's an element of freak water attracting people out? http://www.nettrader.ua/content/70078
Takes quite a while 3-4 hours maybe a bit less if you donп??t have any problems! http://www.nettrader.ua/content/69965
г?? Luckily got out on Sunday and had a good days paddleing on the Rhondda Fawr. Was quite high with lots of big waves and stoppers in places. A shame to see such a mess on the river with three cars and numerous shopping trolleys!!! Might be useful especially after all this rain ;) http://www.nettrader.ua/content/69584
Bala Mill was really flowing well and was a bit sticky at the bottom, another heart stopping moment !. Matt http://www.nettrader.ua/content/69988
Rob Do you ever teach in the pool? Just out of interest if you did what skills would you concentrate on? Rolling, handrolling, cartwheels. What about support strokes, boat control turning etc? http://www.nettrader.ua/content/71914
Has anybody paddled these areas? Paddled Shepperton Sunday morning. Just two of us. 8 gates and a huge bouncy stopper. Great fun, but would have preferred to be on the rivers. д?‘ г?? http://www.nettrader.ua/content/70375
Thanks Mick, think we've cracked it. http://www.nettrader.ua/content/70354


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Let me know anyway and I can assist if, by some miracle, I do have spare time and haven't yet gained the signatures.

# bg7qje 2016/07/06 3:42 esu.ers

ж?‡ Bloody Typical....we're heading out on the 19th July!! :lol https://www.metakids.nl/node/11759
Anyone wanting to modify this or correct my description do feel free. Craig, https://www.civiltech.hu/node/6173
е ? WHERE IS IT?: GrizeDale forest part. Runs alongside the small road to Grizedale forest between Spark Bridge (on the Crake) and Hawkshead. Falls are located right by Force Mills I guessed as much, the course at my club is at a very low summer level currently, so I assumed that most of yorkshire would be suffering as much. Lets just hope the trip to tees barage comes off instead. https://www.metakids.nl/node/11826
Mike https://www.metakids.nl/node/11937
Rob Mark R https://www.civiltech.hu/node/5782
On Sunday, having dropped 2'-3' judging from the debris, the holes were fun and a wave below the last weir was river wide and glassy. Very chilled trip. г?? е?? https://www.civiltech.hu/node/7000
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Whilst Mark , Chris & the rest of the A Team headed back up to Dartmeet, the remnants of the D team- (Sheryl & Myself) headed over to the upper Tavy-

# 4jpmp4 2016/07/06 6:35 jackdany

г?“ The only reason I take my phone is because its small enough to slip in beside my wallet and keys. https://www.civiltech.hu/node/7677
hf Cheers Jay! https://www.civiltech.hu/node/6864
г?? Never heard of eye problems but be careful of your ears. https://www.metakids.nl/node/12065
Underwater vision Steve, https://www.civiltech.hu/node/7745
www.bcu.org.uk/yorkshire/...m#Coaching https://www.metakids.nl/node/11318
OK it works now - something to do with chocolate biscuits or cookies or something - seems you need them enabled. ive got a dagger outlaw to sell cheap, almost brand new. 複 https://www.civiltech.hu/node/6058
sean sean https://www.metakids.nl/node/11626


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The final Canoeist article featured these rivers.... You're not the only ones who get excited...I got some strange looks at work today by the kids working in the Library at lunchtime....I took a peek at the Dart webcam and nearly jumped into the air when I saw that it was in spate!

# hqb17q 2016/07/06 7:25 karlita

г?® е®? Long may it remain so. If the long distances don't put people off coming to clutter the place up, the Scottish Exec has it's special secret weapon at hand to deter the tourists - roo https://www.civiltech.hu/node/6318
(To do smileys, when you post a message on the left hand side there are some links, one of which is 'use emoticons' click it and it will show you what to type to get an 'emoticon' or 'smiley') https://www.civiltech.hu/node/7037
г?° Just testing. A little behind the times I'm afraid. https://www.metakids.nl/node/11714
If you score a kayaking job that should be all you need apart from some experience. If you want to work as a raft guide and already know how to guide then you will have to do a minimum number of trips (usually 6), depending on which river you work on, and sit an assessment (a lot of company owners are assessors). If you have no experience of guiding rafts then you have the choice of attending a course somewhere, or or hooking up with a company and learning "on the job", for which you won't be paid. The Kaituna is unique case as there are two guides in each boat - one primarily for reflipping the raft and rescuing punters if/when the back guide gets muntered by the waterfall. Someone with rescue training and first aid can work as front guide after a minimum 20 trips, depending on apptitude. In this case it would be best to come over the winter (i.e. April/May) so you can get experience and fully assessed before the summer season, when nobody will have time to train you! Guide licenses in NZ are split into categories - grade 3, grade 4/5, grade 3 senior, grade 4/5 senior if I remember correctly. To work round Rotorua you need your 4/5 licence which involves and assessment on the Kaituna and also on the Rangitaiki (as the 'tuna is a piece of piss to guide and doesn't demonstrate much rafting skill, wheras the Rangi is rocky as hell and does. https://www.metakids.nl/node/11121
Wise move! The 'slot' was horrendous. We were a little concerned about having five paddlers on the river in flood conditions, one mistake and you could be in some serious s##t, particularly when all the eddies had vanished! https://www.metakids.nl/node/11594
chris, Acuvue lenses, though I used to lose a few when I used CIBAVision focus dailies. г?? https://www.metakids.nl/node/11625
Oxford/ Maidenhead/ Reading and thereabouts. You wouldn't know it though, as they all lurk near concrete walls on the Thames. Not to mention the marathon paddlers there. https://www.civiltech.hu/node/7001


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The brusing wont last as long as the dent in my wallet if I can't get my paddles back though.

# xnuj40 2016/07/06 8:15 alexu1

е№ё Rory We even managed to have to university style epics on the middle Duddon and the Crake as well..... https://www.civiltech.hu/node/6654
Cheers, Never say never Jerry. At the mo a few regulars aren't using it but there's no reason to suppose it's down and out. Perhaps this is currently a Uni holiday(???)...they always tended to be dry periods of activity. https://www.metakids.nl/node/11321
е ? No seriously...well done that man, some real paddling by some one at least. The other major issue is swell direction, and obviously that must be towards the coast. Waves do go round corners by a form of refraction, which is why a westerly swell can give good surf on some north facing beaches. But this is a local phenomenon caused by the shallowing water and won't make a north-westerly swell turn a corner at Land's End and run up the Channel. https://www.civiltech.hu/node/5997
Bruno https://www.civiltech.hu/node/7285
the second was paddlin into the spin dryer eddy - one of the most confusing moments of paddlin ive ever had - the eddy was movin as fast in the opposite direction as the wave train on the way down!!!! https://www.civiltech.hu/node/7513
See ya, I'll contact them again just to double check. е ? г?“ https://www.civiltech.hu/node/7066
I usually reckon a normal 3 month supply will last me about a year, as I only really wear them for paddling, so 2-3 times per week." https://www.metakids.nl/node/11858


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Eddylines do the same sort of thing on boats...pay ?10 for the day and they'll let you swap the boat as many times as you like!

# grywkx 2016/07/06 13:29 316L

г?? Mick http://www.naturvielfalt.ch/de/node/23601
Long may it remain so. If the long distances don't put people off coming to clutter the place up, the Scottish Exec has it's special secret weapon at hand to deter the tourists - http://www.naturvielfalt.ch/de/node/23794
г?? г?? www.bovec.si/english/index.html http://www.naturvielfalt.ch/de/node/23554
hf Rob's right (apart from the typo), if you're converting 'imperial' gallons to litres. But the usual reason volumes are published in gallons is because they're US designed boats so you need the conversion for *US gallons* which is different. Not satisfied with our gallons, the Americans invented a different one. Yes they've been isolationist for that long. https://www.civiltech.hu/node/7879
Mark R So I guess my question is - Geographically, where are the most paddlers? http://www.naturvielfalt.ch/de/node/23549
For your info Mark the swin was humilitaing. The last drop on the Greta - as it joins the Tees - and there were even spectators on the bank and bridge!! He's also developing a good bruise to keep him from paddling next week!!?? е ? http://www.naturvielfalt.ch/de/node/23492
Nothing wrong with it, in fact very good but been spoilt recently, but compared to some not worth that description. https://www.civiltech.hu/node/7851


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ok will do. Wise move! The 'slot' was horrendous. We were a little concerned about having five paddlers on the river in flood conditions, one mistake and you could be in some serious s##t, particularly when all the eddies had vanished!

# iie96o 2016/07/10 6:30 Alexinho

г?­ г?? Tom http://www.ukbms.org/MYDATA/node/3592
Leeds Uni http://www.ukbms.org/MYDATA/node/2709
е ? г?? The bottom line? Try out all the boats you like the look of. You can't even start to tell until you've paddled a boat for a couple of hours. I generally keep my eyes closed rolling, with the occaisional just open enough to find up if I get really confused. http://www.ukbms.org/MYDATA/node/4271
(I like your photo by the way!) http://www.ukbms.org/MYDATA/node/3797
Anyone wanting to modify this or correct my description do feel free. Might be going Sunday if there is no water in the 'normal' rivers in North WAkes. http://www.ukbms.org/MYDATA/node/3293
Mick sean д?? г?? http://www.ukbms.org/MYDATA/node/2939
I have some friends in Boone which is a "little" way from Asheville. I'll be heading over at some point in the future for a spring or autumn trip. Not this year unfortunately. :-( Craig. http://www.ukbms.org/MYDATA/node/4147


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Have fun gettin' wet :D Of the boats you've listed, the Inazone's definitely the best bet. The Glide is a very trippy design - the rails are super sharp, and it's long and slicey enough for nose pins to be a potential problem. It rewards you if you're on form, but that's probably not the type of boat you're looking for as a river runner. The Sub-7's a great boat (I've got one) but it's not really a grade IV/V river runner - it's very tight on the feet, you probably can't fit in with shoes, which are essential if you're paddling with other people, it's pretty tail-happy if you've got splits in the back etc. Great playboat, perfect for easier rivers, but not the boat I'd choose for anything which may have consequences. The Quadro's only really worth looking at if you can get a good price - it's a great river runner, but the play performance isn't too good. The hull's not very loose, the rails aren't really there and there's a very twitchy feeling when you're side surfing. On the other hand, the new Xeno might be worth a look (check out system X's website).

# 2yjv7y 2016/07/10 10:49 bizlly

г?? Do you ever teach in the pool? Just out of interest if you did what skills would you concentrate on? Rolling, handrolling, cartwheels. What about support strokes, boat control turning etc? I'm currently using forte agent to read the newsgroup and it seems that the server here at Notts Uni seems to miss quite a number of posts, so that combined with the ghost town status means that I only check out of habit. I haven't had anything to add that is worth discussing tho'! http://www.ukbms.org/MYDATA/node/4203
It has to be up there amongst the 'best in the UK', but I wouldn't like to choose a number one. http://www.ukbms.org/MYDATA/node/3281
г?? I know people who paddle with contacts. Yes, they lose them occasionally. http://www.ukbms.org/MYDATA/node/4604
Hope that helps. '' Best rapid in England'' Storey, I don't think so! http://www.ukbms.org/MYDATA/node/4924
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# 7d04g6 2016/07/10 11:40 mihai_murgocea

г?? Davef It gives some idea what you may expect. But the level changes quickly. http://www.ukbms.org/MYDATA/node/3536
Colwyn flows into the Aberglaslyn Gorge. Never caught the Colwyn flowing (although bottled out of soloing it in spate once) but the Aberglaslyn is pretty reliable as a fallback...excellent fun, but over before you can say, 'what eddy?'. http://www.ukbms.org/MYDATA/node/5244
г?? Time to look more closely at his book....! http://www.ukbms.org/MYDATA/node/5306
Buy a Necky Switch !. I used to paddle a Quadro but just found it a bit bland. I'm crap at playboating but since I have brought the Switch I am starting to improve, it is also predictable and controllable so good for River Running too. I am well pleased with mine. http://www.ukbms.org/MYDATA/node/3276
Cheers. http://www.ukbms.org/MYDATA/node/4730
I guess these topics also get you looking at factors such as cost and travelling. е№ё г?® http://www.ukbms.org/MYDATA/node/3893
(Leicester Outdoor Pursuits are running an assessor training day - e-mail me for details if you want them) Come on....you know you want to! http://www.ukbms.org/MYDATA/node/4694


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