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略語や頭字語の発音(アブリビエイションやアクロニム) その2

元ネタ:「略語や頭字語の発音(アブリビエイションやアクロニム)

 

もとの width シリーズを書くべきかもしれないけど、先にこっちをおわらしちゃお。

 

私の場合は

co-op : コープ

gif : ジフ

char : チャー

TeX : テフ

SQL : エスキューエル

TAFKAP : プリンス

 

なのですが(かつ、それが一般的だと思っているのですが)、以下のように読む(読むべきと思っている)方もいらっしゃいます。

 

co-op : クープ … 英語発音ぽい系です。これを言ってたのは日本に住んでるアメリカ人。英語では”oo”は「う」または「うー」になります。例)cool、poolなど

gif : ギフ … 英語読みでもローマ字読みでも”gi”は「ぎ」でしょう。アメリカ人がみんな”ギフ”って発音してて、よくよく考えたらそうだなぁと目から鱗でした(でも、私はジフって読むけどね)。日本でジフって読むのは岐阜県のギフと勘違いするから?いずれにしてもジフは意味不明系ですね。ちなみに、女優のユマ・サーマンさんのユマはUmaと書きます。英語発音は「うま」です。これは「”ウマ”って馬?(笑)」ってならないように日本ではユマって記述してるそうです。

char : キャラ … 日本語的省略ですね。マクドナルドをマクドというかマックというかと似たにほひがします。

TeX : テックス … 単に英語発音ぽい系ですね。でも、TeXを極めてる方にとっては「テックスだって、ぷぷっ。」とかって思われちゃうらしいです。

SQL : シークエル … 英語の意味から来た読み方?とりあえずアメリカでは皆さんこう発音してらっしゃいますねぇ。

TAFKAP : アーティストフォーマリーノウンアズプリンス … ながっ!(>_<) 「じあーてぃすと」とも呼ばれていたそうです。それはそれで一般語過ぎる。

投稿日時 : 2010年6月10日 9:14

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# 略語や頭字語の発音(アブリビエイションやアクロニム) 2010/06/10 9:17 むりせず♪なまけず? ~ぷろくらすてぃねいたーの言い訳雑記~

略語や頭字語の発音(アブリビエイションやアクロニム)

# re: 略語や頭字語の発音(アブリビエイションやアクロニム) その2 2010/06/10 9:28 あおおにくん

「にほひ」だと思いまーす。

# re: 略語や頭字語の発音(アブリビエイションやアクロニム) その2 2010/06/10 9:30 刈歩 菜良 CTP

あおおにくん

あ゛っ!ほんとだー。
ありがとうございます。
<(_ _)>

# re: 略語や頭字語の発音(アブリビエイションやアクロニム) その2 2010/06/10 10:45 aetos

そのプリンスはいったい何ですのん…?

# ねーねー、なんて読んでる? 2010/06/10 13:07 すいません、VB4しかやってないんです、VBAはやったけど(ぼそ)

ねーねー、なんて読んでる?

# re: 略語や頭字語の発音(アブリビエイションやアクロニム) その2 2010/06/10 23:32 ぽぴ王子

呼んだ?

# re: 略語や頭字語の発音(アブリビエイションやアクロニム) その2 2010/06/11 19:55 れい

遅ればせながら。

gifの発音で
> いずれにしてもジフは意味不明系ですね
という件ですが。

一般的な英語のphonicsでは
「g」という綴りは後ろの母音に従って「g」もしくは「dz」と発音します。
「i」「e」「y」の場合は「dz」で、それ以外だと「g」となるので、
giant、gender、gymnasiumなどでは「dz」と読みます。

ですので、「gif」を単語として普通に読むなら、英語的な発音では[dzif]となります。

「dzi」は「ジ」もしくは「ギ」と聞こえるはずで、
一般的には「ジ」と表記・発音されています。
文科省の標準では「ジ」でしょう。
「ギ」もかなり近いのですが。

「gif」を「ジフ」というか「ギフ」というかは「gymnasium」を「ジムナジウム」というか「ギムナジウム」というかと同様です。
というように考えれば「ジフ」も意味不明ではありません。

# re: 略語や頭字語の発音(アブリビエイションやアクロニム) その2 2010/06/13 7:38 刈歩 菜良 CTP

aetos さん

> そのプリンスはいったい何ですのん…?

もちろん、直後に降臨された方です。
(*^_^*)

ぽっぴー

待ってたよーーー。
(●^o^●)

れいさん

なるほどぉーーー。
英語的にはgiを「ジ」と発音する場合もあるんですねぇ。
# give とか giga しか思いついてませんでした。

あ、でもやっぱ意味不明だ。
だって、アメリカでは「ギフ」が主流で、日本では「ジフ」主流ですもん。
これが逆なら日本人はローマ字読み、アメリカ人は英語読みってことで納得できるんですけどなぁ。

やっぱ、謎だぁ。
(?_?)

# re: 略語や頭字語の発音(アブリビエイションやアクロニム) その2 2010/06/13 23:57 Pasie.

>ギフ
 岐阜っぽいからやだ。とか言ってみるテスト。

# re: 略語や頭字語の発音(アブリビエイションやアクロニム) その2 2010/06/15 2:33 れい

> 英語的にはgiを「ジ」と発音する場合もあるんですねぇ。
> # give とか giga しか思いついてませんでした。

「場合もある」というような頻度ではなく、
標準的なルールになるレベルで[dz]となります。
後ろに子音+母音が続く場合は[g]になる、という別のルールもあります。

> だって、アメリカでは「ギフ」が主流で、日本では「ジフ」主流ですもん。

はてさて?
それは本当ですかね?

私の知り合いの米国人は皆[dzif]です。
イギリス人もインド人もルーマニア人もネパール人もロシア人もベルギー人も[dzif]でした。
まぁそんなに大勢はいませんが。

情報系の人は一人もいませんのでgifのgがgraphicだと知っていて意識している人はいないでしょうね。

gifのgの由来を考えずに発音するなら[dzif]とするのに不思議はありません。
それは標準的な発音ルールにのっとっていますから。

gの由来を知っている人が発音するのに[gif]とするのにも不思議はありません。
gifのgはgraphicのg、つまり[g]ですから。

Acronym化された単語に対する態度の違いという認識も可能でしょう。
それを、「意味がわからないがなんか専門用語」としてとらえるなら明らかに[dzif]です。
graphics interchange formatを省略している、と見るなら[gif]以外にあり得ません。

それと前にも述べていますが
[dzi]を「ギ」とするか「ジ」とするかの問題もあります。
これは耳の問題。

現状を分析するなら以上で大体事足りるかと。
どれを「正しい」とするかという議論なら話題は尽きませんが。

私なら、Acronym化されたものは既に「それのみで単語」とすべきであると考えますので、英語では[dzif]と読み、文科省の標準的読みを用いて「ジフ」と発音・表記します。

# re: 略語や頭字語の発音(アブリビエイションやアクロニム) その2 2010/06/15 11:26 刈歩 菜良 CTP

れいさん

> 私の知り合いの米国人は皆[dzif]です。
> イギリス人もインド人もルーマニア人もネパール人もロシア人もベルギー人も[dzif]でした。

な、なんと!
# 「日本在住の」ってオチぢゃないですよね。(^.^)

> 情報系の人は一人もいませんのでgifのgがgraphicだと知っていて意識している人はいないでしょうね。

私の場合はgifって単語が出てくるのがIT系の人との会話でしかないので、IT系ですね。
IT業界では「ギフ」なのかな?


そうそう、

> 文科省の標準的読みを用いて「ジフ」と発音・表記します。

「文科省の標準的読み」ってどこーーーーー??
(・o・)/

ヘボン式だとgiは「ギ」だよねぇ。

# re: 略語や頭字語の発音(アブリビエイションやアクロニム) その2 2010/06/15 11:27 刈歩 菜良 CTP

Pasie. さん

> >ギフ
> 岐阜っぽいからやだ。とか言ってみるテスト。

意外と真実はそんなもんだと思ってみたり...
(^.^)

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