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Width の発音はウィドゥス

ネタ元:「Width ウィズ? ワイズ?

 

Width の英語読みでの発音をもっとも近い形でカタカナにするとウィドゥスです。

英辞郎

 

Machine をミシン、Channel をチャンネルまたはチャネルをいうのはカタカナになっていて日本語扱いなので良いと思います。

# むしろ、チャンネルが一般的に浸透している読みなので、チャネルに違和感を感じまくりですが。

 

でも、Width とアルファベットのままであるならば英語発音に近い形で読むべきだと私は思います。

 

続き:「Width の発音はウィドゥス その2

投稿日時 : 2010年5月20日 14:17

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# re: Width の発音はウィドゥス 2010/05/20 16:03 むたぐち

http://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/leaf/ej3/94624/m0u/width/
これを聞くと英語発音に近いカタカナ表記は「ウィズ」な気がしますねー
ただ、ウィズ、っていうとwithと間違えられるので私も人に話すときはウィドスって言ってます。

# re: Width の発音はウィドゥス 2010/05/20 16:12 刈歩 菜良 CTP

むたさん

おひさーーー

こっちも聞いてみてください。
http://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/leaf/ej3/95083/m0u/with/

同じに聞こえますか?

日本人はdとthの音が一緒にしか聞こえない人が多いんですよ。
# 間に母音がないから。

でも、widthとwithの発音が違うっていうのはわかるんですよね。

# re: Width の発音はウィドゥス 2010/05/20 16:58 Mr.T

私は、どっちかといえば、ウィズスっぽくいいますわ。

# re: Width の発音はウィドゥス 2010/05/20 17:45 刈歩 菜良 CTP

Tさん

それは新しいですねぇ。
( ..)φメモメモ

# re: Width の発音はウィドゥス 2010/05/20 21:49 Ognac

耳に入ったままで、良いと思うこの頃。
dthの発音は、今となっては不可能な私。

# re: Width の発音はウィドゥス 2010/05/21 10:04 aetos

聞いてみた感想。カタカナで書くなら
width:ウィズ or ウィッツ
with:ウィヅ
ですかね。

# re: Width の発音はウィドゥス 2010/05/21 10:06 aetos

どう聞いても「ウィドゥス」じゃなかったですねぇ。3音はない。

# re: Width の発音はウィドゥス 2010/05/21 19:08 ちゅき

周りはウィヅスって言ってる人多いような気がする。
#というか、ワイズは初めて聞いたっす。

# re: Width の発音はウィドゥス 2010/05/21 22:34 刈歩 菜良 CTP

Ognac さん
> 耳に入ったままで、良いと思うこの頃。

わたしもまーそうだと思うのですが、Widthに関してはWideとWithとの区別が必要だと思います。
どちらもワイドとウィズでほぼ日本語化しているので。

aetos さん

カタカナ表記に関してはその筋の権威であるアルクさんがおっしゃってることなので、あえて議論はやめておきます。

で、Widthは3音どころか1音です。
これは話が長くなるので、いずれまた記事にでも
# が、しかし、また本日から6月終わりまでかっつかつですが。(;O;)

ちゅきさん
ワイズはないですよねぇ。
でも、靴業界ではすでにそれがデファクトっぽいのでカタカナ表記でお願いしたいです。
# そうしているところも多いですが。

# re: Width の発音はウィドゥス 2010/05/22 1:43 aetos

というかですね、「幅」って言えばいいんですよ。

# re: Width の発音はウィドゥス 2010/05/22 12:13 よねけん

「width」「height」の読み方(発音)を音声データで!
http://lhsp.s206.xrea.com/misc/width.html

上記のURLから音声データのあるサイトへリンクがあったのでいくつか聞き比べしてみました。

「ウィドゥス」派でしたが、「ウィッス」でもよいような気がしました。
#とはいえ、仕事中にこう言われたら脱力しますね・・・

# re: Width の発音はウィドゥス 2010/05/22 22:12 aetos

> Widthは3音どころか1音です。

んとね、「Width」や「widθ」が何音なのかはどうでもいいんですね。
少なくとも「ウィドゥス」は3音でしょう。「ウィ」「ドゥ」「ス」で。
いや、ひょっとしたら語学的には「ウィドゥス」も3音ではないのかもしれないけれど、まぁそこは汲み取ってくださいな。
要は俺には「ウィドゥス」というカタカナ表記を素直に発音したようにはどうやっても聞こえないということです。

# re: Width の発音はウィドゥス 2010/05/24 21:13 刈歩 菜良 CTP

よねけんさん
aetosさん

まず、カタカナ表記についてはアルクの英辞郎を支持するという立場を取りたいと思います。
彼らがプロですから。


で、別記事でウィドゥスとなぜ日本人には聞こえないか、なぜウィズじゃだめなのかは別記事にしますね。

# re: Width の発音はウィドゥス 2010/05/25 15:36 aetos

> ウィドゥスとなぜ日本人には聞こえないか

聞こえないとしたらウィドゥスと書いちゃだめだと思います。
アルクは英語のプロかもしれませんがプログラマは英語のプロじゃありません。英語のプロには常識なこともプログラマには非常識です。
そして、プログラマの常識で「ウィドゥス」と聞こえないのなら、それは「ウィドゥス」ではないんです。
この意見に対する答えは次のエントリで聞かせてください。

# re: Width の発音はウィドゥス 2010/06/01 22:45 刈歩 菜良 CTP

aetos さん

“英語のプロじゃありません”というのとネイティブの英語発音にこだわるところに矛盾を感じるのは私だけでしょうか?
# でも、この点に関しては私のメインの主張とずれるのでエントリには多分書かないと思いますが。私の主張は「ウィドゥスって言ってるからウィドゥスと書きましょう。」なので...

> この意見に対する答えは次のエントリで聞かせてください。

直接の答えにはならないかもしれませんが、一連のエントリで少しでも理解者が増えればよいなぁと思っています。

# Width の発音はウィドゥス その2 2010/06/01 23:07 むりせず♪なまけず? ~ぷろくらすてぃねいたーの言い訳雑記~

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