MAX_PATH はなぜ 260？

某所で出てたので、ネタにすることにｗｗ

かなり古～～～いネタなので、先ずはおいらが現状確認できて、おいらが持ってるもっとも古い情報リソースのチェックからｗ

API32WH.HLP(NT 3.x 時代の日本語ヘルプ)によると、この当時既に定義値は 260 であるとされています。

さらに古い情報になると、WIN31WH.HLP(Windows3.1 SDKのヘルプ)があるのですが、残念ながらこちらには定義値は出てませんでした。でも MODULEENTRY 構造体の定義で利用されていることがわかりました。

ですが、こちらの定義は、char szExePath[MAX_PATH + 1]; となっています。今のWin32 系のヘルプとはちょっと違う定義ですので、どうやらこれは値が異なるようですね。

ちなみに、WIN31WH.HLP にある GetOpenFileName() の呼び出しサンプルでは、パスの受け取りバッファを char szFile[256]; と定義しています。

投稿日時 : 2007年5月16日 19:09

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# re: MAX_PATH はなぜ 260？ 2007/05/16 19:54 中博俊

\.\256\0じゃないの？

# re: MAX_PATH はなぜ 260？ 2007/05/16 20:02 とっちゃん

ちがいます。

答えは255+3+1+1です(大きい順ｗ)。

本質はなぜ+1+1なのかですねｗ

# re: MAX_PATH はなぜ 260？ 2007/05/16 20:05 中博俊

+1は\0でしょー
+3って\.\じゃないのかー
あと+1は偶数に丸めるくらいかなー

# re: MAX_PATH はなぜ 260？ 2007/05/16 20:20 とっちゃん

\0はあってますが、他はちがいますねｗ

そのためにわざわざWIN31WH.HLPまで出してるんでｗｗ

# re: MAX_PATH はなぜ 260？ 2007/05/16 20:37 中博俊

パスカル流変数サイズ

# re: MAX_PATH はなぜ 260？ 2007/05/16 21:11 渋木宏明(ひどり)

>GetOpenFileName() の呼び出しサンプルでは、パスの受け取りバッファを char szFile[256]; と定義しています。

は、複数ファイル名を受け取ることがあるので、MAX_PATH を指定しておけばいいってもんでもないわけですが。。。まぁ、当時の SDK のサンプルなんてこんなレベルでしょう。

>答えは255+3+1+1です(大きい順ｗ)。

登場順は 255+1+3+1 とか？

# re: MAX_PATH はなぜ 260？ 2007/05/16 21:47 とっちゃん

＞パスカル流変数サイズ
なぜそっちに！
MACじゃないんで、C or ASMですよｗ

雑学モードｗ
Pascal String は、
頭(１バイト)に文字列長、後続に文字列という形が正式なものだそうです。
BSTR はそれの拡張変形版で、WORD単位にして、末尾に\0が付いたもので、アドレス位置が実質的な文字列の開始位置になります。

知らずに使うとはまることがあります。
＃BSTR をうけるAPIとかねｗ

＞登場順は 255+1+3+1 とか？
登場順は 3+255+1+1 ですね。
最小単位に分解すると
3 は 2+1 になります。

ちなみに、MAX_PATH は、値こそ違いますが、DOS の時代から存在してます。
#もちろん、UNC なんてない時代の話です。

# re: MAX_PATH はなぜ 260？ 2007/05/16 22:39 kkamegawa

まぁ今でもMAX_PATHだぜへいへい！ってソースが99%のはず…私も人のことは言えないｗ。

＃ま、拡張子3byteきめうちとかやってる社内システムに比べればまし。

GetOpenFileName()をはじめて使ったとき、複数ファイル受けたときどうしようとか力いっぱい悩んだものです。

＃結局複数ファイル受けない方針で…

Explorerとかいまだに260byteじゃなかったでしたっけ？NT4.0くらいまでだったかな。

API32WH.HLP…なつかしいなぁ。あのときはあれっぱかしで入っていたんだ。

# re: MAX_PATH はなぜ 260？ 2007/05/16 22:56 とっちゃん

API32WH.HLP 8,210,678
WIN31WH.HLP 7,333,735
ですね。
WIN31MWH.HLP 314,134
なのもとってありますｗ

もう手に入らない貴重なファイルフォーマットが記載された
大事な大事な資料ですｗｗ

だって、これにしかICOフォーマットないんだものｗｗｗ

>Explorerとかいまだに260byteじゃなかったでしたっけ？NT4.0くらいまでだったかな。

ITEMIDLIST 使ってるんで、リミットされてねーですよ＜エクスプローラ
それ以外なものは別ですがｗｗｗ

ちなみに、おいらのかかえてるやつは...
＞ってソースが99%のはず
に含まれてますｗ

ご内密にお願いいたしますｗｗｗ

# re: MAX_PATH はなぜ 260？ 2007/05/16 23:01 ちゃっぴ

> ITEMIDLIST 使ってるんで、リミットされてねーですよ＜エクスプローラ
> それ以外なものは別ですがｗｗｗ

そういう意味では表示はできるけど、削除はできん。
ついでに作成も警告がでます。

# re: MAX_PATH はなぜ 260？ 2007/05/16 23:06 とっちゃん

あれ？削除はできませんか？
SHFileOperation には ITEMIDLIST でいってる筈なんですが？

あ。。。中がだめなのか？ありえるなぁ...orz

# re: MAX_PATH はなぜ 260？ 2007/05/16 23:42 ちゃっぴ

なお、260Byte ではなく 520Byte です。
NTFS は Unicode で path を記録するようになり、それに合わせて Win32 も path を Unicode で扱うようになったため。

XP 時代からの FAQ ですが、長い path の削除を行うには、DEL command とかを使って、\\?\ 形式で渡しなさいというのがあります。

NTFS ファイルシステム上のファイルまたはフォルダを削除できない
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/320081/ja

なお、こんなのを書いてみました。

Windows の path について
http://blogs.wankuma.com/tyappi/archive/2007/05/16/77042.aspx

# re: MAX_PATH はなぜ 260？ 2007/05/17 0:11 えムナウ

c:\ で3文字と 255 パスファイル拡張子 \0 とココまでは簡単。

問題なのは +1
makepath のせいでSHIFT-JISだとバグッタから \0 を余計に入れたのかな。

# re: MAX_PATH はなぜ 260？ 2007/05/17 0:45 中博俊

c:\なの？本当に。
あと+1で思い浮かぶのは\0なんですが。

abc\0def\0\0
似非配列。

ダイアログの複数ファイル選択がMAX_PATHだからとか

# re: MAX_PATH はなぜ 260？ 2007/05/17 1:34 シャノン

c:\hogehoge\\0

# re: MAX_PATH はなぜ 260？ 2007/05/17 1:37 社本＠ワック

ＮＴＦＳストリームを扱うためのコロン (:) では？

# re: MAX_PATH はなぜ 260？ 2007/05/17 1:37 えムナウ

>中さん
それも考えた。
だけどそれじゃすぐオーバーしちまうんじゃないかと・・・

wmakepath あった気がするなぁ。

# re: MAX_PATH はなぜ 260？ 2007/05/17 1:41 えムナウ

>中さん
キーになるのは「makepath」ドライブとパスとファイル名と拡張子から、
fullpath を作る関数じゃないかと勝手に想像しております。

# re: MAX_PATH はなぜ 260？ 2007/05/17 11:11 とっちゃん

えー。。。おいらがおうちでのほほんとしてる間に答えがさりげなく書かれておりますｗ

正解は次のエントリーでｗ

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